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== Attendees ==
 
== Attendees ==
 
   
 
   
Iain Cardow, Andrew Farncombe, Alan Crawford, Simon Wright, Filippo Farina(RR), John Davies.  
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Iain Cardow, Andrew Farncombe, Alan Crawford, Sarwar Ahmad, Simon Wright, Filippo Farina(RR), John Davies.
  
 
== Paper for ASEC 2018 ==
 
== Paper for ASEC 2018 ==
== Service-Centric views and System-Centric views ==
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SW had submitted the abstract for ASEC 2018 that had been developed at the April meeting.  This has been accepted and a six page paper is to be submitted by 11 June. The meeting agreed to focus on this paper.
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Following discussion, the consensus was that having Service-Centric views and System-centric views was a useful route to explore and should be the basis of some research into what we would produce based on our current position and what is available in the literature.  
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== Paper format ==
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The ASEC paper format was used and general content for each section identified.
  
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Discussions focussed on deciding:
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* The overall message we want to get out
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* What is different about the approach being taked
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* Why this difference is important
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* How we get this across to the referees
  
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== How to express the findings ==
  
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* Four different white-board briefs of our contribution were produced and discussed.  It was agreed that considering two views of the system - one service oriented and one system oriented could be used to cover the four different briefs, and provide  strong message.
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* It was agreed that the major contribution to be expressed in this paper is for the analysis of Services in terms of Context Diagrams, Stakeholder Analysis, Behaviour Analysis, Context Analysis and Structure Analysis are different if you take Service-Centric views against what you get if you take a System-Centric views.
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* The difference compared to Architecture Frameworks, that include Service views such as MoDAF, is that AFs are looking at services as system components, whereas we are looking at the enterprise or business from two views - one Service-Centric and one System-Centric.
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* Hence for example a Service-Centric Stakeholder Analysis will be similar (and use the same or similar methods) to a System-Centric Stakeholder Analysis but focus on the Service aspects and provide a richer set of outputs.
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* Comparison was made with Product Service Systems (Tukker) which deals with a range of Services from Pure Service to Pure Product.
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* It was noted that the standard Service Oriented Architecture relating Business Model to Services provided by System Components fits into our wider
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== Actions ==
 
== Actions ==
 
   
 
   
SW – to develop draft ASEC2018 paper for review before/on 21 May
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* SW – to develop draft ASEC2018 paper .
JD/AC – to add definitions/notes on Characteristics.  
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* IC to arrange phone in Tuesday 29 May 14-00 Review of draft paper
AF – to look at Standard Architecture Frameworks and their relationship/impact on what we are proposing s contact members of the INCOSE UK Architectures Working Group and Rail Interest Group.
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* IC to arrange phone in Tuesday 5th June 14-00 Review of updated paper
IC/NH - to review updated draft Handbook.
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== Next Meeting ==
 
== Next Meeting ==
 
   
 
   
 
Monday 16 July 2018, 10-30 to 14-30, Babcock, Keynsham, Bristol.
 
Monday 16 July 2018, 10-30 to 14-30, Babcock, Keynsham, Bristol.

Latest revision as of 10:01, 23 May 2018

Contents

[edit] Attendees

Iain Cardow, Andrew Farncombe, Alan Crawford, Sarwar Ahmad, Simon Wright, Filippo Farina(RR), John Davies.

[edit] Paper for ASEC 2018

SW had submitted the abstract for ASEC 2018 that had been developed at the April meeting. This has been accepted and a six page paper is to be submitted by 11 June. The meeting agreed to focus on this paper.

[edit] Paper format

The ASEC paper format was used and general content for each section identified.

Discussions focussed on deciding:

  • The overall message we want to get out
  • What is different about the approach being taked
  • Why this difference is important
  • How we get this across to the referees

[edit] How to express the findings

  • Four different white-board briefs of our contribution were produced and discussed. It was agreed that considering two views of the system - one service oriented and one system oriented could be used to cover the four different briefs, and provide strong message.
  • It was agreed that the major contribution to be expressed in this paper is for the analysis of Services in terms of Context Diagrams, Stakeholder Analysis, Behaviour Analysis, Context Analysis and Structure Analysis are different if you take Service-Centric views against what you get if you take a System-Centric views.
  • The difference compared to Architecture Frameworks, that include Service views such as MoDAF, is that AFs are looking at services as system components, whereas we are looking at the enterprise or business from two views - one Service-Centric and one System-Centric.
  • Hence for example a Service-Centric Stakeholder Analysis will be similar (and use the same or similar methods) to a System-Centric Stakeholder Analysis but focus on the Service aspects and provide a richer set of outputs.
  • Comparison was made with Product Service Systems (Tukker) which deals with a range of Services from Pure Service to Pure Product.
  • It was noted that the standard Service Oriented Architecture relating Business Model to Services provided by System Components fits into our wider

[edit] Actions

  • SW – to develop draft ASEC2018 paper .
  • IC to arrange phone in Tuesday 29 May 14-00 Review of draft paper
  • IC to arrange phone in Tuesday 5th June 14-00 Review of updated paper

[edit] Next Meeting

Monday 16 July 2018, 10-30 to 14-30, Babcock, Keynsham, Bristol.

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